Julie - members currently can't change your Karma. It's something I'm deciding on and the jury is still out. Also still deciding if it should be a preference or not, but I don't want new folks getting confused when they don't see a karma bar on all profiles.
Drobess - Yes Chat increases your Karma. BUT - it's so easy to bump up your Karma in chat that it would be too easy. Therefore chat messages have a lower "value" than (for example) forum posts, or receiving messages etc.
Old red - some people have -5,000 points already lol (It would go back to 0 if they logged in today though). Anyone with less than 0 points will show a 0% score.
Cass - the idea was to make it fairer. Still don't want it to be "Who talks the most" though. It's a combinations of lots of variables now - so you have to be "Active" to get high Karma. There are some people who have lots of profile hits but do nothing else... they're not on the lists! Profile hits aren't as valuable as you think. The maths behind it take every variable, look at the average for the site, and 'weight' them accordingly. The maths can't possibly know what you do offline, or for what reasons you send PMsetc. So they can only be rewarded by others bumping up your Karma if we choose to have that feature (I know at least 1 person doesn't want it though). The other sites I've seen this system working on are not dating sites, just social networking sites for partying etc. It's a community rating, not a "How fit is he/she" rating.
Frag - you'd have to post 200 forum posts a week to get the same karma as you get for being staff.
DC - It's not a measurement of looks, it's a community rating. It can help new folks (especially girls) to decide if they should meet up with a guy or not. If they see someone has a long history on the site and a good "Karma" then it may be a good sign that they're a trustworthy person (Of course this might not be the case, but it's at least SOME indication rather than no indication)
CG - If you go on hols, your Karma will slowly decrease as you've not made any posts etc in the past 14 days. It will also drop if you don't logon. As soon as you login though it will shoot up. You loose points for each day you're not online, but get them all back when you login again. The only person with a full blue bar is the person with the highest Karma. Everyone else's bar is a percentage of the person with the highest Karma.
Newkid - At the moment, nobody can vote on your Karma. This is still open for debate. Yes you will loose Karma for keeping quiet... that's the point! The idea is to make people active, post in the forums and join the chatroom etc. It's a damn social site at the end ofthe day, and it's my job to get people more involved (Especially at the moment because site activity and subscribers have dropped massively during the economy crisis thing)
Can I change the colour of my karma bar please, never been keen on cyan blue!
Indeed, if I can change it's colour to match it's surroundings, would it be a karma-chameleon?
Hope people don't start looking at peoples karma and thinking oh its low so I won't bother contacting that person they must be boring. Umm not sure why I asked about that as at my age no one contacts me anyway, the nearest to a date I get is the ones I buy to eat at christmas on my own.
Can you gain extra points for age.
I think if you send in a letter saying you are going on holibobs then you shouldn't lose points you should gain them for going away and giving someone else a chance to post if your a heavy poster.
Do I get extra Karma for once being married to chaVbot and now keeping you all upto date on his and Doris's new married life and the activities down the community centre.
think its time to pick up my suitcase and board my flight before Matt tells me to take flight with a big bikre boot up my ****
I've never liked the "most popular" tag, online or anywhere else... So perhaps you could change the title of those lists?
From a dating angle, it's generally not something a female wants to appear on anyway... it has connotations of being "easy", rather than just being a cool person you might want to chat with!
I've seen the karma thing work well on other forums I'm on... I've also seen it turn stupid, when a gaggle of girls want to gang up on some poor cow who spoke her mind, instead of agreeing with everybody... some folk take it very personally, what other people "think" of them.
You generally run things pretty fairly though, so I'm sure you'd keep an eye on sudden karmic changes and make sure it's not the same group of people giving one member bad karma points
WB - thats your vote against the personal Karma voting thing then, which is fair enough.
What would you like the popluar pages to be called then? Name it, vote for it, and ill change it.
You mustn't push asside the whole Karma thing though... the idea and concept is a good one and I can manipulate the code completely if we find it's becoming unfair for some reason. There's absolutely no way for anyone to reduce anyone else's Karma right now (You can only increase it by sending them a PM or wink).
Anyone else have concerns or comments? I hope I'm convincing you all that it's a good idea, cos so far I don't see much AGAINST the idea just a lot of unnecessary concerns. Trust me it's a good thing!
Apologies Matt - that wasn't intended as a vote against it - I think the whole "karma" thing is better than just the "most popular" thing.
It's just something to keep an eye on, in case of people ganging up against members.
Generally I think it's a good idea
& if I had a brain, I'd come up with another name for your lists *ahem*
Matt, was that a challange? See how many forum posts I can do?
Not going to guarantee that they will all make sense. My fingers would get tired with all the typing and then all my posts would turn into anagrams
To be honest Matt, it's not something I take a lot of notice of!
I don't nod at anyone, 'cos I don't need to and most pms I send are to peeps telling 'em to take email addys and the like off their profiles!
So, my karma is never going to be sky high pmsl.
I suppose it's something that keeps peeps on their toes!
Matt,
The Logon/logoff thing raises a question.
I use BM on my Laptop and my Phone, and to make things faster on the phone, I don't ever log off, I just close the phone's browser (I do the same with Facebook) this keeps my username and password and logged on status active and reduces keystrokes to access the site.
Does this now count against me???
Oh... and is the calculation Dynamic, i.e. changes on the fly, or is a re-calculation done as I think I've read, 4 times a day?
Having read that, so many things have changed since then, I thought I'd ask!
Doing a karma count thing that folk realise is to do with all sorts of site activities, rather than a vague measure of "popularity" has got to be more fair. It obviously means a lot to some folk to appear on the lists.
Hey!!! I have an energy bar!!!! Cool........
Has anybody else found the 'Easter Egg' Matt has hidden in the programming?
(Pull up one of XKLYBRs profile pics, use your mouse to poke him in the eye with your cursor arrow and watch your karma bar.....)
(sorry, XK, me ol' sparring partner.. but imagine how high your karma will go... ;) )
Hey Karey!
Ribs are sort of mending but probably haven't rested them as I should have done... have also picked up a stoopid cough which isn't helping! I have a long 3 day trip coming up in 2 weeks time so hoping to be 100% by then.... Hope you are keeping well too - judging by your karmabar (tm) you are!!!
Glad to hear it .. oooooh not good having a cough in your postion...or any position come to that ..!?! but hope youre 100% in time for trip out!
Aye ..my karmabar (tm) who incidently was wondering where u was too...is jigglin along nicely, thanks ever so, for asking