not even worth contesting the accuracy of the equipment , i've just paid 35-00 quid for a parking offence which is actually 70-00 , and this for less than 2 hrs overstaying my welcome .
Okay, this seems definitive, however, if you drive or ride at an indicated 10% +2mph, you are in fact using up the 10% leeway that might have been taken into account which would have acted in your favour, so you will be more than 10% +2 over. And as pointed out, there are other factors taken into account over and above the speed recorded.
Q: What are the ACPO guidelines for speeding prosecutions?
A: These guidelines set out the minimum figures at which a Fixed Penalty Notice and a Court Summons would normally be considered appropriate for a speeding offence, if there are no other aggravating circumstances. The minimum figure for a FPN is the posted limit + 10% + 2 mph. These figures are shown in the table below:
The ACPO Speed Enforcement Guidelines Speed Limit (mph) Fixed Penalty Summons 20 25 35 30 35 50 40 46 66 50 57 76 60 68 86 70 79 96 The full details can be found on the ACPO website.
Bear in mind that exceeding a speed limit by any amount whatsoever is an absolute offence, and a police officer is fully entitled to charge a driver for doing, say, 31 in a 30 limit outside a school at closing time, or in a busy High Street.
However, since a speed camera or Talivan is unable to make any judgment as to aggravating circumstances, automated FPNs issued by these means should not normally fall below the Fixed Penalty level set by the formula. In the past, many Gatsos had thresholds set much higher - in the Metropolitan Police area they were originally set at 43 mph in 30 limits - but in recent years most have been brought down to the minimum ACPO figures. However, I have yet to see a case where someone has received an FPN from a camera or Talivan for a speed below these guidelines - although obviously this can be done by a police officer in person.
But at the end of the day...all this info for a 16 euro fine and no points seems to be excessive. I'd have had you shot, or hung, at least.
haha well i had 2 passengers and their luggage to take to the airport, so no choice really... can hardly fit them all on a blackbird lol.
I know it's 16 euros, and all paid for. But Holland really is bad. I got a 75 euro parking ticket even when I had paid to park in the damn car park! I wrote to the council demanding they cancel it (with a photocopy of my parking ticket and fine) and they said NO because I could have got the ticket from someone else!!! Yet they have no proof it wasn't displayed at the time. Every car in the car park had a parking fine, even though all had paid to park.
And they get away with that crap over here! The councils are a law unto themselves
haha well i had 2 passengers and their luggage to take to the airport, so no choice really... can hardly fit them all on a blackbird lol.
I'm sure you could have found a way to improvise if you'd really wanted to!
Matt....they just dont understand eh? Defqon 1 and Qbase ?!? I know some people who are just soooooo jealous!!
Almost makes the speeding etc ... seem.. trivial.. i said ALMOST!! lol
This sounds to me like a job for the Tuf Tuf Club. This was featured in Jeremy Clarkson's series about our European neighbours a few years ago and the Netherlands' answer to Captain Gatso.
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