My view on this is, learn from our past mistakes. Meaning, in the past we have hung (and other ways) prisoners who were later totally exonerated from all guilt. So my feeling is, if someone is WITHOUT doubt guilty of a class A crime, like Murder, then they should be put to death. But, crimes of passion, eg: Wife kills wife beater should not fall into the above category......see the grey area?
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No don't see the grey area Dyna', taking a human-life whatever the reason/justification is murder and state sanctioned "execution" in my- mind is the same.
this is a subject that will bring every nutter and his mother out of the woodwork!!
Agree with LtGTR it is state sanctioned murder....there is no evidence to suggest its a deterent....so its really a revenge killing. I cant see how it helps the victims family and it creates more victims.
Add to that the issue of miscarriages of justice and if you want to know how many there have been since the death penalty was abolished it runs into hundreds!
there are very few murders Dyna without mitigating circumstances of some sort. And the list of people who were convicted with so called nailed on convictions that have been overturned since.
You will find that everyones view is different depending on personal life experience's
I believe only when it happens to you can you decide which way you want to go.
An eye for an eye or forgive and forget!
If you did get the job SB you would never be made redundant.
Child molesters. Sarah Payne killed by Roy Whiting.
NO mitigating circumstances whatsoever.
Hang draw and quarter the bastard instead of spending X number of thousands of pounds per week to keep him.
If this makes me a nutter in the woodwork, I’m sure there are millions to keep me company.
Not saying all paedo's KG ... Ones that kill their victims, Yes.
What would your reason be for not having Capital punishment in this case in particular ?
I'm genuinely interested.
@ Tony i gave you my reasons in my first post - but now youre talking individual cases. I cant make a case for that you know i cant, but laws arent about individual cases and if you make an exception for one or even one group how long before it starts to be extended to other people....like the kid high on drugs who beats an old dear to death for 20 quid.....or the thug who beats his girlfriends baby to death coz he wanted to teach her a lesson.
However if you want ONE REASON against it go look at the case of Stefan Kiszko.....and i have personal experience of that as i worked for the MP for Rochdale at the time of his release. He was locked up for murdering a wee girl and was allegedly a paedo....16 yrs in prison - would have been executed, by ur standard, as it was a "nailed on" conviction! except he didnt do it.
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Everone is entitled to their own opinion, making assumptions about lynch mobs & such like will only serve to annoy people & confuse the issue, the original point of the thread was to ask wether people here would agree with the death penalty being bought back for some crimes !
Obviously opinions will go either one way or the other but assuming this thread is taken in the proper context eg the law has been used to its full & proper extent & there is no doubt as to guilt then i & many others will agree that the death penalty for certain crimes is justified
I have taken into account your comments about wrongful convictions & admit that the judical system along with the policing of it would need to be sorted out first but assuming all that i think i have made a rational decision & based my opinion on that
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sorry but its never ever justified in a civilised society. and im not gonna say anything else as this subject as thats MY opinion. No problem with anyone differing from it....tear away!
Kwakgirl, until you have suffered the distress and devastation of seeing someone close to you murdered and then watching the sneering culprit in the dock handed down a "life" sentence which really means they could be out again in 12-15 years....you can't begin to understand how some people feel about capital punishment. Must say your views are typical Guardian reader though, if you want to start the stereotyping people game.
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You'll never sort the judicial system out Scoob' and even as it is "beyond reasonable doubt" there're still "mistakes", quite often brought about by police "evidence".
How rational is that decision/opinion of yours I wonder?
The basic principal at stake/in question here is should we allow state MURDER, however we dress it up.
Well as far as the paedo thing goes, I would have absolutely no compunction about killing anyone who interfered with my kids and don't understand the distinction between a paedo killing their victim or the victim having to live with the memory of the attack(s) for the rest of their life
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